Automakers have to sell electric cars. It’s the law. But so far EVs only account for 1.4% of all new car sales. So how can automakers grow the EV segment? Escalent is a research firm that’s identified six different groups of new car buyers and what motivates them to buy a new car. You might be surprised by its findings because “saving the environment” is not high on their list. Instead, automakers need to key in on other attributes, which is the topic of this show’s discussion.

Continental was founded in 1871 and its corporate structure hasn’t changed a lot since then. Now its reinventing itself to deal with an industry that’s quickly moving into electrification, autonomy and connectivity. On Autoline This Week, Jeff Klei, President of North American operations for Continental, talks about how and why the company is changing. And he also discusses the challenge of getting consumers to accept this new technology.

Continental was founded in 1871 and its corporate structure hasn’t changed a lot since then. Now its reinventing itself to deal with an industry that’s quickly moving into electrification, autonomy and connectivity. On Autoline This Week, Jeff Klei, President of North American operations for Continental, talks about how and why the company is changing. And he also discusses the challenge of getting consumers to accept this new technology.
Import tariffs, electric cars, and over-the-air updates are just some of the issues that could disrupt the automotive retail business. Yet transportation in the United States is still built around the automobile. On this week’s show, Charlie Gilchrist, the chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, talks about how car dealers will adapt to a changing world.
Acura has been around for 30 years but it’s hard to define exactly what the brand stands for. Moreover, Acura only has four volume selling vehicles in its showrooms. This week’s show is all about how Acura is rebuilding itself to become a true performance brand and where it plans to expand its model lineup.
The USMCA, the trade agreement that was negotiated to replace NAFTA, was supposed to bring manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. But will it? Right now, the trade pact is stuck in Congress and could be stuck there for some time. On Autoline This Week, three trade experts discuss how it will impact the auto industry if and when it’s enacted.

Government regulations around the world are mandating that automakers build electric vehicles. And they’re doing it. The only problem is, no one knows how to make a profit on EVs. Moreover, they don’t know how to recycle the batteries. On this week’s show, we get into all that and the issues that are hindering EV adoption.

Though most people don’t realize it, modern cars generate a tremendous amount of data. That data is very valuable from a variety of standpoints and it has to be protected from cyber thieves. On Autoline This Week, we discuss the current state of affairs and where its headed in the future.

Just a couple of years ago, automakers were talking as if autonomous cars were right around the corner. Today they all seem to be backing away from that. Why? What happened? And what’s it going to take to put autonomous vehicles on track? On Autoline This Week, two executives from tech companies dive into the issue.

The Management Briefing Seminars represent one of the most important conferences in the global automotive industry. On Autoline This Week, three panelists talk about the top issues that came out of this year’s conference: Trump tariffs, industry restructuring, road blocks to electrification, reinventing the work place and a world of new opportunities.

Flying cars have been part of science fiction fantasy for nearly a century but now fantasy is turning into reality. And the auto industry is starting to explore how it can play a role in what could be a brand-new market. Flying cars could be less than a decade away. That’s today’s topic on Autoline This Week.

The Ford Motor Company is completely changing the way it develops new cars and trucks. They call it EPLM or Enterprise Product Line Management. Ford is also using what it calls customer-centric-design. What does it all mean? On Autoline This Week, Jim Baumbick, the VP of Enterprise Product Line Management at Ford, explains what it’s all about and why it could transform the Ford Motor Company.

Automakers and suppliers are investing heavily in electric and autonomous cars as well as mobility services. But AlixPartners says the industry is entering a profit desert because nobody is making money with these technologies…at least not yet. On Autoline This Week, Mark Wakefield explains how the industry will have to handle this transition.

Continental was founded in 1871 and its corporate structure hasn’t changed a lot since then. Now its reinventing itself to deal with an industry that’s quickly moving into electrification, autonomy and connectivity. On Autoline This Week, Jeff Klei, President of North American operations for Continental, talks about how and why the company is changing. And he also discusses the challenge of getting consumers to accept this new technology.

Cadillac came out with a product onslaught in the last decade but it hasn’t gained any ground. It will soon become the point of the spear for General Motors big push on electric cars. In the meantime, it needs to leverage technology like Super Cruise, it new SUVs and its high-performance V-Series to build momentum in the marketplace. On Autoline This Week, Deborah Wahl, Cadillac’s Chief Marketing Officer, talks about their strategy and plans.

Roger Penske is an icon in the automotive industry and he’s this year’s recipient of the SAE Foundation’s Leadership of the Year Award. His businesses touch all aspects of the industry including, trucking, manufacturing, logistics and racing. On Autoline This Week, he discusses what keeps him inspired to be involved in his business at his age. He also discusses the industry’s move into autonomy, electrification and mobility services.

American automakers invested heavily in China and for years enjoyed great growth. But they taught their Chinese partners a lot and now they’re losing sales to Chinese automakers and profits are declining. “Made in China 2025” is an ambitious Chinese program to globally dominate certain key technologies and industries, including the automotive industry. This has significant implications for the US automotive industry. Michael Dunne, an expert on the Chinese auto industry, and the CEO of a consultancy called ZoZo Go, shares his insights and warnings about what is likely to happen.

Tesloop is a ride sharing company. Carmiq is a car sharing company. And Rahul Sonnad is the CEO of both. The companies specialize in using Teslas to provide rides, or allow Tesla owners to rent out their cars. On Autoline This Week, we learn how the startup is exploring new opportunities in mobility.

BorgWarner is a century old auto supplier that always specialized in technology for internal combustion engines. Now its repositioning itself to be a significant supplier in propulsion electrification. On Autoline This Week, Fred Lissalde, the CEO of the company, discusses BorgWarner’s strategy for stepping into the new world.

Magna is an impressively diversified automotive supplier that is growing at double digit rates. It’s the only traditional auto supplier in the world that manufactures cars for automakers. In fact, it can even do full vehicle development. On Autoline This Week, CEO Don Walker talks about Magna’s involvement in ride hailing, autonomy and electrification. And why all the startups are knocking on Magna’s door.

Cyber security is an increasingly important topic in the auto industry and also the commercial truck industry. And with the growth of autonomous and connected vehicles, it’s only going to become more of a concern. On Autoline This Week, we’re on location at the National Defense Industrial Association’s cyber security meeting, to discuss how vehicles are being protected from hackers.

Bosch is the world’s largest automotive supplier and is viewed as an old, traditional company that is set in its ways. But with so much change happening in the auto industry, the supplier needs to become more adaptive and flexible. On Autoline This Week, Mike Mansuetti, the President of Bosch North America, joins us for a discussion about the evolution of what is going on in the supplier industry.

Auto shows are in trouble. Some automakers are skipping certain auto shows and some are dropping out of others. On this week’s show, we dive into what is going on and what it will take to turn it around.

Ford had a terrible 2018. It wants to bury it and focus on the future. That future involves a complete redo of its product line and an effort to find new partners. And Ford is doing this knowing full well that it is sailing into unchartered waters. Ford’s Executive Vice President and President of Global Markets, Jim Farley, joins us on Autoline This Week to discuss the company’s future.

The number one problem facing every automaker and supplier is recruiting the talent they need. Baby boomers are retiring by the thousands and the automotive industry is struggling to replace them. It’s a crisis in recruitment. How do we get new talent to join the automotive industry? Find out on Autoline This Week.
The emergence of electrification, autonomy and mobility is rapidly changing the landscape of the auto industry. That’s why a big Tier 1 supplier like ZF, needs to evolve to keep up with the competition. On Autoline This Week, Aine Denari and Mamatha Chamarthi from ZF, discuss how the company is becoming more flexible and agile, while it transitions away from making traditional vehicle components.

Every year, the editors at Wards Auto choose the top engines in the market for its annual 10 Best Engines award. This year, they evaluated 34 new or updated powertrains, including traditional ICEs, hybrids, battery electrics and fuel cells. On Autoline This Week, the Wards Auto staff joins us to discuss their picks for the 10 Best Engines.
Every year, 54 automotive journalists vote on the best new car, utility vehicle and truck, that were introduced. On Autoline This Week, we discuss the vehicles that made the finalist list in each of these categories. Not only do we discuss the attributes of these vehicles, we predict who the winners might be.
While a lot happened in the auto industry all year long, 2018 is really wrapping up with a bang. From Nissan’s CEO being thrown in prison, to GM announcing major plant closings, to Tesla scrambling to build Model 3’s, to President Trump enacting import tariffs, there was no end to the news. On today’s show, we dive into the details.
Not too long ago, Lincoln wasn’t viewed as a major player in the luxury segment. However, its launched several new models, the Navigator, MKC, Nautilus and Aviator, that are changing the perception of the brand. On Autoline This Week, Joy Falotico, the Group Vice President of the Lincoln Motor Company, discusses how she plans to boost sales while improving residual values and why China is playing a big role in the revival of the company.
A decade ago Volvo was flat on its back. Some wondered if the company could survive. Today it’s a completely different story. Sales are soaring thanks to an impressive lineup of all new vehicles. On Autoline This Week, Anders Gustafsson, Volvo’s Senior Vice President of the Americas, talks about how they’ll keep the momentum going and how they’re exploring new ways to move the metal.
Schaeffler is a traditional Tier 1 supplier that makes components for internal combustion engines, transmissions and chassis. Now it’s plunging into the world of electrification, autonomy, and mobility. On Autoline This Week, Jeff Hemphill, the Chief Technology Officer at Schaeffler Group USA, talks about how they’re making the transition.

The National Auto Dealers Association is one of the most powerful lobby groups in the United States. It has a clear idea of where it’s going and what it wants. On Autoline This Week, Wes Lutz, the 2018 Chairman of the NADA talks about the Trump Administration’s plans for imported car tariffs. He also shares his views on electric cars, autonomous cars and how mobility services may impact automotive retailers.
While everyone in the automotive industry focuses on new cars, the used car market is red hot right now. But how long will it last? Technology is both enhancing and disrupting sales of used vehicles. On Autoline This Week, our panel discusses if the used car market will continue to boom or if it’s just another bubble.
One of the hottest parts of the U.S. auto market right now is with pickup trucks and SUVs. And while they’re perceived to be gas guzzlers, these vehicles are getting a lot more fuel efficient. In fact, Fiat-Chrysler is in the process of converting most of its pickups and Jeeps into hybrids. On Autoline This Week, Brian Spohn from FCA powertrain explains how the company is doing these conversions.
Automakers are starting to introduce new technology in their factories that is making working safer, faster and more productive. Technology such as drones, 3D printing, co-bots and exoskeletons. On Autoline This Week, Dan Grieshaber, the Global Director of Manufacturing Integration at General Motors, explains how today’s factory workers are at the forefront of a new industrial revolution.
The convergence of autonomy, connectivity, electrification and ride sharing is going to change the auto industry as we know it. It’s going to have as much impact on society as when the automobile first appeared over 100 years ago. On Autoline This Week, Larry Burns the author of the book “Autonomy,” lays out his vision for how the world is about to change.
The common perception is that millennials don’t want to buy new cars and don’t even want to drive. But Professor Mike Bernacchi at the University of Detroit Mercy, has data that refutes that perception. On this episode of Autoline This Week, he explains how car companies and dealerships should be marketing to millennials.
Automakers, suppliers and tech companies are investing tens of billions of dollars in developing ACES cars. That’s the industry vernacular for Autonomous, Connected, Electrified and Shared cars. But AlixPartners, a global consulting company, says much of that money is going to be wasted. On today’s episode of Autoline This Week, Mark Wakefield of AlixPartners explains how these companies need to get into this field with their eyes wide open.
Almost 40,000 people are killed every year in the United States in car accidents but the auto industry has impressive new technology coming that could slash that number. Some of the technology is going into cars right now and some will come later. On Autoline This Week, Jada Smith talks about the role Aptiv is playing in bringing this technology to market.
Cars used to be made out of wood and steel. Today, they’re made out of many different grades of steel and aluminum and different kinds of plastics and even carbon fiber. Moreover, today’s cars bristle with all kinds of safety sensors. They’re being electrified and soon will be autonomous. That makes today’s cars far more complex to repair. So, how do technicians get proper training when cars are constantly changing? And how do body shops ensure they have the right kind of commitment? This show delves into how automakers and independent repair shops are trying to meet the challenge.
Automakers face a dizzying choice of propulsion systems to use in their vehicles, which includes piston engines, hybrids, plug-ins, battery electrics and fuel cells. On Autoline This Week, Dan Nicholson, the Vice President of Global Propulsion Systems at General Motors, discusses GM’s strategy on where and when to use each one. And he also talks about the need for a new national standard on high octane gasoline.
Automakers face a big challenge of where to devote their capital and R&D efforts in powertrain development. How do they balance their efforts between internal combustion engines, hybrids, battery electric vehicles and fuel cells? Dave Filipe, the Vice President of Powertrain Engineering at Ford, lays out the company’s strategy of how they’re going to proceed.
Automotive retailers are enjoying a terrific business climate right now but they face an uncertain future. On Autoline This Week, experts in the automotive retail business talk about the market shift away from passenger cars, what it will take to sell electric vehicles, how they’re dealing with margin compression and the impact President Trump’s import tariffs can have on their business.

Dana is a traditional automotive supplier that’s been around for 114 years. It manufactures axles for all kinds of vehicles but now it has to transform itself into an agile company that’s ready for an autonomous and electrified world. On Autoline This Week, we’re joined by Bob Pyle, the President of Dana’s Light Vehicle Driveline division, to discuss how Dana is getting ready for big changes in the automotive industry.

Shiloh Industries is a traditional auto supplier that pours, bends, machines and welds metals. And yet sales have tripled in four year’s time. On Autoline This Week, Ramzi Hermiz the CEO of Shiloh Industries, talks about how the company’s light-weighting experience is propelling that growth and will continue to do so even with electric and autonomous vehicles. He also talks about his experience serving on the board of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
The auto industry is undergoing massive technological change. That’s why LEAR, a traditional seat supplier, is adding the technical capability to ensure the company can grow as the industry evolves. Ray Scott, the CEO of LEAR joins us on Autoline This Week, to discuss a number of topics, including how the seat in your car, is about to join the internet of things.

General Motors is preparing itself for the coming decade, where there will be massive change coming from autonomous vehicles, electric vehicles, connected cars and shared cars. Dan Ammann, the President of GM, explains the company’s strategy and outlook for the future.
Africa’s population is almost as large as China’s and will double in the next 20 years, which means the demand for cars and mobility will be massive. On Autoline This Week, our special guest is Edward Hightower, an auto industry veteran, who’s written a book that identifies six countries on the continent that are ripe for industrialization.
With more and more technology being added to cars, automakers can no longer design vehicles that delight customers, they now have to design vehicles that build trust. Input is needed from many different disciplines, so design can encompass a customer’s entire experience. On Autoline This Week, John McElroy is joined by three design experts who explain why “designers have to become stewards of morality.”
The market for ride sharing is growing fast. At the same time, customers are ditching cars and snapping up trucks, CUVs and SUVs instead. So how will dealers play a role in the new world of mobility? We’ve invited three experts from the dealer world to Autoline This Week to find out.
Cyber security is a growing concern in the auto industry. There are all kinds of cyber-attacks that aren’t getting talked about publically. But it’s not enough to just protect cars from hackers, automakers must look at their entire operation. However, the auto industry can’t do it alone, it must seek out the help of experts. There are lessons for the industry to learn from the military and vice versa. On Autoline This Week, John McElroy is joined by members of the auto industry, military and the tech world for a dive into cyber security.
Automotive suppliers are critically important to developing new technology, they account for 70% of the value of a car. But they face a number of important issues, like possibly losing NAFTA and the impact of aluminum and steel tariffs. Joining us on this edition of Autoline This Week is Julie Fream, the President and CEO of the Original Equipment Suppliers Association, to discuss the issues facing suppliers.
Is corporate America too focused on the short term? That’s what author and former President of JCI’s North American Automotive operations, Rande Somma says. On Autoline This Week he shares why he thinks Boards of Directors aren’t properly incentivizing management and why executives are paid too much.
Automakers spend a great deal of time and money developing a new vehicle and surprisingly one of the most time-consuming parts of the process is choosing its colors. It takes two to three years to get a color certified for a car. On this edition of Autoline This Week, we’re joined by color experts from Axalta, BASF and PPG, to discuss everything from how color will play a role with autonomous cars, to how it can affect the way people feel about a vehicle they’re in.
It’s an exciting time to be an automotive designer but creating a new style for a brand isn’t an easy task. Designers must be able to predict the future and identify styling trends years before a new car is launched. On this edition of Autoline This Week, John McElroy sits down with designers from Jeep, Buick and Ford to discuss how they go about creating a new car design.
Despite the fact that it has six different brands, last year the two that made the most money for FCA were Jeep and RAM. And this year both brands are debuting new product. However, today there seems to be nothing more important to the public than a truck, and RAM has a dynamite light-duty version, which it unveiled recently at the North American International Auto Show. This week’s Autoline talks to the two men responsible for the interior design and marketing of the truck. Join us for a deep dive into the 2019 RAM 1500 half-ton pickup.
Many analysts say that automakers who continue to make cars like the ones produced the last 100 years, may find themselves out of business in the not too distant future if that continues to be their concentration. And that’s a big reason why OEMs like Ford have made a big investment on mobility. Whether it’s technology, ride-sharing or product planning, the executive in charge of all mobility for the Blue Oval is Executive Vice President Marcy Klevorn. Autoline recently caught up Ms. Klevorn at the Consumer Electronic Show in Las Vegas, Nevada where she sat down with Autoline to share the Ford mobility story.
It’s one of the most coveted design jobs in the automotive world. Only seven talented men, throughout its 90-year history, have been lucky enough to hold the title “Head of GM Design.” The most recent is Michael Simcoe, the first Aussie to steer the ship. This week he sits down with John McElroy along with Alisa Priddle from Motor Trend and Automobile’s Todd Lassa as they talk about this historic job and where he’d like to take General Motors Design.
Imagine how difficult of a job it is to be in charge of Ford’s Product Development. And then how about if we put you in charge of Ford Purchasing as well. This combination is the latest job description of Ford executive Hau Thai-Tang. He joins John as Autoline THIS WEEK’s special guest as he discusses his engineering past, his latest roles with the company and his nearly three decades with Ford Motor Company.
It’s one of the most sought-after engineering awards in the world and Autoline has the inside scoop. The WardsAuto editorial staff joins us to discuss this year’s 10 Best engines in the world.
It’s almost time for the North American International Auto Show where manufacturers not only unveil the newest cutting-edge cars, but a group of North American auto writers award the coveted NACTOY best car, truck and sport utility of the year prize.

John McElroy revisits some of the most interesting ATW shows from 2017.

John McElroy and three top auto journalists – Joe White with Reuters, Greg Migliore from Autoblog and Automobile’s Todd Lassa -- examine the top automotive news stories from 2017.

Back in January 2016, GM saw that it needed to make a move; actually several of them if it wanted to remain viable for the future. Since it already had the cars it started with a Zipcar-like rental service called Maven and now has graduated to something called Maven Gig. Joining John McElroy to explain the story of Maven and how GM plans to expand it is Rachel Bhattacharya, Maven’s director of Commercial Mobility Strategy.

Today’s cars collect data. The computers and electronics on cars, trucks and SUVs capture almost everything we do and where we go with it. And some of that information can be valuable to different sectors of the auto industry.

Entrepreneur Dale Pollak made his name developing software to solve day-to-day dealership issues. But along the way he witnessed the tsunami of changes that would envelope 21st century automotive retailers and chronicled many of them in his book “Like I See It.”

With so much of the auto industry working on autonomy, it’s hard to say who is doing what. On this week’s Autoline we talk to a manufacturer, a Tier One Supplier and an auto analyst to get the straight scoop on where we stand with autonomous cars.

The newest Chairman of the National Auto Dealers’ Association, Mark Scarpelli of Illinois, makes his annual pilgrimage to the Autoline THIS WEEK panel to talk about sales, product, customers and how things look for 2018.
So much of what the country is, can be traced to transportation: especially the car. And boy do we love to drive. But with all the talk of mobility services and autonomy, some worry that our wanderlust will wither if we’re not driving for enjoyment anymore. Join John and noted transportation author Peter DeLorenzo, McKeel Hagerty of the Hagerty Group and Mark Gessler from the Historic Vehicle Association for a fascinating discussion of what driving does for Americans.
John McElroy invites the head of Tier One Supplier Lear Corporation to join him on the panel to talk about the current state and future of the auto industry from a Supplier’s perspective.

Donald Trump’s victory over Hillary Clinton turned many long-understood answers into questions, especially when it comes to trade. For instance, Mr. Trump claimed NAFTA was a much bigger benefit to our neighbors and threatened to change it. And with so much of the auto industry involved John McElroy invited Washington, D.C. NAFTA expert, Les Glick, to enlighten us on what may, can or will happen. Joining the panel is Jamie Butters of Bloomberg and Daniel Howes of The Detroit News.

Most all of us know how autonomous cars are progressing and that many of us already drive vehicles with autonomous elements in them already. But what about autonomous plane travel? This week’s panel features a discussion on how autonomous travel drones are not too far away. On the panel are: Bob Lutz, Former Vice Chair of General Motors; Robin Lineberger, Deloitte; Jon Rimenelli, Detroit Aircraft Company
This is Part 2 of a look at Mobility Services taped onsite in Traverse City, MI. This panel features Carla Bailo of The Ohio State University; Kristin Welch, SPLT; Melissa Cefkin with Nissan Research.
On location in Traverse City, MI, this is Part 1 of two separate segments on mobility and what is coming sooner rather than later. Joining John McElroy on this panel are Larry Dominique, the CEO of PSA North America; analyst Michael Robinet from IHS Markit; and John Waraniak with SEMA.
What’s going on with your local auto show? Is it still viable or is the steam running out on this 100 year old tradition as the baby boomers find less need for autos in retirement and the younger generations seem more wedded to the concept of mobility? You may be surprised by what the experts say.

Joining John McElroy for this roundtable is Rick Deneau, the Head of Product Communications for FCA; Steve Bruyn is with Foresight Research and Stephanie Brinley is an auto analyst with IHS Automotive.
Ford, like its competitors, is facing the future straight on. And perhaps the biggest question to answer is what will be powering its cars: hybrids, fuel cells, electrics or the good old I.C.E.? The man on Ford’s frontline of propulsion systems is Robert Fascetti. Today he joins John McElroy and his panel to discuss Ford’s future driving options.
The new cars, trucks and SUVs that we’re all buying are not only filled with new technology, they are also filled with data. Data that some companies will pay dearly for such as where we go and what we listen to. But how can automakers monetize that data? They have enough to do just designing and engineering the vehicles.

On today’s show, John McElroy and his panel explore how to turn that data into gold with John McFarland from General Motors, Ben Hoffman the CEO of supplier Movimento and Joe Vitale, the Global Automotive Leader from Deloitte.
You might know Dearborn, Michigan as the home of the Ford Motor Company. But what you may not know is that Henry Ford wanted to make the city the model suburb for the rest of America. Join John McElroy as he welcomes author and historian Heather Barrow as she highlights the Ford philosophy as it moved from the factory floor to mass suburbanization.
It burst onto the scene at the NY Auto Show, with a stunt worthy of Hollywood itself. And in fact, the Dodge Demon has teamed up with the Fast & Furious film franchise. So what’s all the hoopla about? Join John McElroy and the man responsible for this 840 horsepower muscle car coming up on Autoline THIS WEEK.
If you look back 8 or 9 years, the state of Michigan was an absolute mess. As two of its largest tax payers – GM & Chrysler -- declared bankruptcy, there was a legitimate fear that many tangential companies would also fall, putting the layoff totals in numbers not seen since the 1930s. But of course that did not happen. And in fact, Michigan’s automotive recovery couldn’t have been stronger. So what happened and how did the state avoid the worst? Joining John McElroy on this edition of Autoline THIS WEEK are representatives from three organizations who had a front seat to everything that happened.
Automakers may have their logo on cars and trucks, but more than any time in history, what they produce is a team effort. And much of that team consists of Tier One Suppliers. Joining John McElroy to discuss the relationship of Suppliers and the OEMs are Lon Offenbacher, President & CEO, Inteva Products along with Rainer Jueckstock, Co-CEO and Co-Chairman of the Board, Federal-Mogul.
Before the Great Recession, General Motors had its hand in a lot of different powertrains. But once it slimmed down it had lost a lot of those options. But 2017 is certainly a new day. Now there are diesels, hybrids, electrics and let’s not forget the good old internal combustion engine in both the car and truck lineup. On today’s show John McElroy and his panel get the inside scoop on GM engines from Dan Nicholson, the vice president of Propulsion Systems.
From the floor of the New York International Auto Show, John McElroy interviews three Wall Street analysts whose job it is to keep an eye on what’s going on with the automotive landscape. We’ll see where they think the industry is headed and how soon autonomous vehicles may be driving off dealer lots.